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1. Want a part 2 where I react to his thoughts after AI Day 2022?
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2. Classic logic error: "If I personally cannot follow the path for how things go from Point A to Point Z, that means that such an outcome is not possible." No matter how many times and in how many ways this logic error is proven to be wrong, people still keep making it.

3. Experts are almost always right when they say what can be done.
   But almost never right when they say what can't be done.

   That's something we have learned from history, so we don't have to be an expert to know it!

   One consequence of this is that one expert says it can be done, and another that it can't, we can be pretty certain that it can be done!

   But Elon hasn't (yet) said that Optimus (or Optima) will have AGI. It's a far off goal, an ideal to aim for.
   The engineering trick is to make Optima a viable product without AGI.

   You know that FSD isn't AGI, don't you?

4. When you read an old article from these “experts”, you should link their twitter. That way, they get the proper feedback

5. Can you roast Thunderf00t pls?

6. If the author had written a fairly hopeful article with his own benchmarks to measure Tesla's progress, it wouldn't have gotten any hits. And isn't that the major problem with just about every effing author/publication today?

7. The bot will follow the timeline of FSD. Always just around the corner.

8. Elon should set a goal to have the robot assemble an IKEA desk. Also, I think he should consider peripheral attachments, like a wrench or socket set. Also, there should be a Tesla Bog Instructions library that the bot could download the IKEA instructions, tailored for a bot. Lots of commercial applications right there. Just set the goal to assemble some IKEA stuff.

9. The best part of the Robots is that Tesla will sell off parts of the robot, or build hands that can do meal prep so you don't need to buy the whole robot. Lots of potential in just selling off parts of the bots for specific tasks. I'm happy they are working on a full humanoid bot regardless.

10. AI/ML is all about the data. Tesla EV's are trained with data obtained from human driven cars, and also from synthesized data which trains the system to recognize all manner of road and driving objects and scenarios. When you provide other types of data, say walking around a house, the AI/ML system will learn to recognize this environment too. There is no special program logic needed. An AI 'expert' should know this.

11. The only difference between a rocket and a reusable rocket is one word; only a one word difference.

12. The author recognized the delusion of other industries that doubted Musk, yet can't quite come to terms that his industry isn't any different.

13. 32:12 Oh, no… Steven got so lucky that he doesn't love us any longer. The end is near, and the competition is coming.

14. Laying out a path. Is what makes autopilot possible. Teslas humanoid robot does the same thing. It's brain has to lay out a path for the bot to follow and complete tasks along that path. I don't see this as a impossible task. But this guy seems to think so. So probably a Tesla hater.not going to be an investor either. I think with the electrification of everything. We are just looking at the tip of the iceberg of things that will be possible.

15. In my opinion, the word 'expert' is grossly overused within American society. What is typically seen is individuals who have been conditioned to think certain ways. Instead of saying, "I cannot think of a way that product can be useful" they say "That idea will never work!" Some of these 'experts' need to confess that they are still learning and that they do not know everything–nobody does. The R&D teams at Tesla are merely pursuing a method to engineer a prototype android. It's 'a" way not 'the' way. I think that some of these folks simply like attacking EM and his efforts. Some people really enjoy making others into 'threats' or 'extremists' in order to give themselves airtime. Many possibilities exist on what combination of software and parts may yield a successful outcome. But, it does seem that there is a deep-seated resentment of EM in general because of his teams' successes. The fear of his ideas and problem-solving abilities is very real for many 'experts' in the traditional industries he is disrupting. So, they attempt to use the mass media to turn him into a 'threat to democracy' or a 'threat to freedom' or something else overly dramatic. Where will it end?

16. It will be fun to see how this ages: https://youtu.be/18iEcZw5ERM?t=1807

17. Most Expert articles like this, doesnt tell you the truth or to make you wiser. Its not the main reason they are written. They are made in order to fullfill a pupose, someone has paid $ for. The article doesnt reveal the purpose of the manipulation, or the origin of the sponsor. Writers and journalist are not idiots. They are just earning easy money, because people are supposed to form an opininon, if they get the same information frequently enough. The learning curve in your brain, cant tell and doesnt care if the information is true or false. So if you in ex. say again and again, that you won an election, although you lost, someone without the ability to reflect, will remember the lie as if it was the truth. That is called brainwashing marketing – or nowadays just Trumpism. 🇺🇦😎

18. Another time that Elon will not see an apology or retraction 😔

19. It's OK to be wrong, especially if it is coming from a somewhat knowledgeable and well thought out place, but one deserves to be roasted if one is an arrogant twat.

20. IEEE is the international professional body for electrical and electronic engineers. I would be a member but there is too much paperwork involved… IEEE Spectrum is a magazine edited by the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers.

21. Electric vehicles powered by lithium-ion batteries already existed before Tesla. It took more than a decade for Tesla to manufacture them at scale. Reusable orbital rockets will be a revolutionary achievement. Although I'm fully convinced that SpaceX will have fully and rapidly reusable orbital rockets in the future; that's yet to happen. In any case, past success is not a guarantee of future success. It's not yet certain that cameras and neural networks are capable of image recognition to the level that is required to perform all tasks that humans do well. Artificial General Intelligence is not just an engineering problem but a computer science problem. That's the sense in which manufacturing humanoid robots are different from mass-producing electric vehicles or reusable orbital rockets. Tesla may well produce humanoid robots with AGI but it's far from certain at this point.

22. I want a robot to mow my grass and cut my trees and lay electric underground lines and repair my plumbing and my roof and my windows and wash my cars and paint my carport and clean my parking space and feed my dogs and remove the dog turd. Nothing repetitive needed! I i forgot: washing clothes – of course without dryer we have no dryer in Europe and cooking healthy meals would be nice! Wifey and i are working all day long. Grocery shopping would be nice but then he/she/it would have to go to driving school. I guess that will take a few years until bots are treated like humans. We humans are all a bunch of racists!

23. I will say it once and once only.

    If everyone thinks like the FUD people who critised everything that Tesla is attempting to do, then we will never progress as Humans.

    Making an AI Vehicle or Robot is not easy. Its extremely challenging and we are lucky that Elon took the challenge head on instead of saying – "no, its too difficult, lets just use existing tech to improvise". If everyone thinks like that, we will never reach Mars.

24. Lol you really think that pathetic slow bot elon debut is evolutionary? Elon releases the minimum and you praise him. Watch this conman get exposed in a few more years.

25. Experts are people that did something for a long time, it doesn't mean that they are good at it.

26. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74PowRNMwe0
    Mark moss interviewed this Bjorn Lomborg. Man this guy needs a roasting does he not know what Tesla are actually doing this video mad me so fucking mad man. The solution is right there TESLA this lobbyist need a new asshole SMR oblige him.

27. I love this video. I'm watching it twice.

28. Musk is a con artist who has made so many claims that are clearly untrue that he really should be facing charges for stock manipulation. Aside from that, the bot they demoed showed no ability to perceive it's environment, moved like a frog masturbating and looked to me as if it may have simply been operating via remote control.

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30. IEEE is an electrical engineering association. Alot of standards, regulations, etc come from them

31. In about a year from now I figure GM will make an announcement that they too will build a robot. lol they will call it the Ultium prime.

32. Check out thunderfoots videos debunking Elon musks claims…it’s hilarious 😂

33. I mean how would a humans react: a. You might be dead b. Certain humans have been cyber stalking/trying to kill you and Claire bowers set a discord trap.

34. I wonder how many rockets he’s landed he’s never compete with someone like Elon the week always talk shit and always get embarrassed so badly you never hear from them again

35. Evan Ackeman isn't an idiot, as Steven tells us. He actually have a point. And that is getting Optimus to do actual work, like a human. is a very very hard problem.

    But he is wrong when he in his article tells us how the FSD can't be transferred to Optimus, because it isn't going to run on roads.
    That's just as stupid, as Steven thinks.
    The technique used to make FSD can be used to get Optimus to move in almost any environment. It probably could move well enough in the world go to the grocery store, after being told where it is.
    It, of course, isn't the FSD itself that is moved into Optimus.
    It will get it's own system, built with the same technique as used to build FSD.

    With the FSD technique, the Dojo, and the AI computer from the car, Tesla has much more than anyone else available for use in his robot.

    Add to that Teslas manufacturing skills, and they are way ahead of anyone else.

    To get Optimus to do real work isn't easy though, as Evan says. I don't think AI techniques are ready for that, yet.
    But the easy way out is to use our old manual programming to do something.

    Something like telling Optimus (probably not by speach, though) to pick up those things and put them there, and such simple steps.

    Optimus AI probably can fill in gaps in the programming, such as that those things aren't exactly at the same place. And it will be able to move between places by itself, without any other instructions than where it should be.

    But basically, Optimus won't be able to decide what to do without instructions. It will be a very limited worker, but that might just be enough to get things going.

    How hard these things are is shown by how difficult it is to make FSD do the right thing. It have taken much more time than Elon thought.

    And that's something like getting Optimus doing only one task.
    But we want it to be able to do manny different things!

    This is my take on it, and it will be interesting to see what more the AI team can do about it, than such an abysmal thing as I described.

    The General Intelligense we humans say we have is an unsolved problem in the AI world. And it would suprise any AI researcher if Optimus could show even a beginning of that.

    Simply put, Optimus won't know what it is doing, or why.

36. Maybe the author could work for tesla one day? Nah

37. Difficult and “important” problem!

38. A good roasting of an amazingly zero-content article!

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