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1. pretty sure 2.0 computer is identical to 2.5
   the only difference in 2.0 vs. 2.5 is the forward radar (bosch vs. continental). They both use the same computer (NVIDIA DRIVE PX 2). The 2.5 cars have a an added node but its for redundancy only and is not a distinguishing feature etc.

   the only difference 2.0/2.5 (other than that Bosch2.0 forward radar/2.5/3.0 Conti rardar) vs. 3.0 is the computer – 3.0 is technically called Full Self Driving computer)

   those with paid for FSD on 2.0 or 2.5 get a free upgrade to 3.0 FSD computer

2. What is the last 6 digits of your VIN on the S?

3. dead at "ride the white pony" lmbo

4. Could you test out summon features in between 2.0 and 2.5.. I noticed by just covering up one parking sensor with a sticker or tape can make hey 2.0 hardware vehicle unable summon.

5. Doesn't look like much of a hardware test other than maybe function cycle times, more likely SW maturity.

6. Thanks for the side-by-side comparison.
   Have you thought of plugging directly into Tesla Autopilot data to produce videos like those in this TMC thread? https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/seeing-the-world-in-autopilot-part-deux.129790/
   Also, what air pressure does your Model 3 have? I know Model S is smoother, but also know Model 3 can have different ride depending on tire pressure.

7. Cool. CO CO COOL ;D

8. Nice work. That kind of road is not ideal for autopilot. Not sure I would use it there no matter how good it is. I have a MX AP 2.0 and I experimented with raising the air suspension and found that the higher settings seemed to see things better. Might be worth a test.

9. You’re the best man!

10. my take is you should ONLY be using AUTOPILOT on a FREEWAY. unless you are EXTREMELY paranoid and ready to take over like a crazy person, almost more attentive. On a walled off freeway I find autopilot extremely useful. – rest of time- liability

11. Think the "dread dive to the right" is normative when lane centering is lost because the road "widens"(extra asphalt to right part of drive). Common for a human driver as well. Speed is always an issue in any vehicle but in particular an autonomous one. I think ten miles per hour below the posted speed limit is always the right choice. Of course this will bankrupt the gasoline folks even quicker soooo..

12. My Model 3 with the latest update on autopilot seems to hug the outside of the lane, on the highway during turns. This is scary because other cars tend to drive close to the inside of the lane, during a turn. And my Model 3 doesn't seem to move out of their way, as if it's not even sensing them in the next lane. I know it's all beta and it will get better however, I really can't see the time line happening for full self driving as soon as Elon says.

13. I think the problem at 8:13 is exacerbated by the fact that the road was repaired and the white line is missing. The car moves right to center itself in what it believes is the new wider lane, just for a moment, then centers once again when the white line comes back. So you get a move right then back left wiggle. While the model S with 2.0 hardware did most of the route better you also had to take over to avoid hitting the mailbox both times (or at least once for sure). I don't know if I would say overall that the model S's AP did better because of that.

14. Will your 2.0 model S (with FSD purchased) also get the update to the FSD computer?

15. I dunno, almost taking out a mailbox doesn’t sound like the move of a winner…

16. I think as you told 2.5 hardware had a faster computer it was assessing the surrounding quicker and reacting to it in a more jerky way. While model S could not react to the surroundings that quick and was therefore smoother (as it was simply following the lines). But in the first test of the model S it stopped for the mailbox as its computer realized the mailbox pretty late and it didn't have the time to steer therefore it slammed on the brakes

    (Edit – the words in brackets)

17. It’s hard to compare two different vehicles with two different control systems. Even if you installed the most basic electronic speed control on two different vehicles, it will need different settings for PID (Proportional, Integral, derivation) control depending on the mass of the vehicle and the power of the engine, or more precisely the amount of acceleration that comes with each 0.001” movement of the throttle.

    So in this Test, it’s not conclusive as to whether one car is easier to control, or if one control system is significantly better, or if the software settings for one of the cars is better than the other (they can’t both use the same settings). It is possible that the software can auto adjust all the PID loops, but this is not normal because they will fight each other, so normally that is set at a certain value for a certain situation.

    The human brain automatically tunes PID for each situation. To observe this just stand a 6’ broom stick in the palm of your hand and balance it. Soon you will know how far and how fast to move your hand. Now use a 3’ broomstick and you will see your old settings no longer work. You need faster response and smaller inputs. Then use a 1’ broomstick and now the latency of control needs to be less and control needscto be faster and smaller.

    If you apply that to the S and 3, the s is a massive car which is more like the 6’ broomstick, and the 3 is like a shorter broomstick. The S is easier to control in most situations, but the 3 has less latency, and slightly faster computer, so it’s less likely to get behind in rapidly changing situations.

    Also HW 2.5 has slightly better sonar sensors and forward/side cameras. These are primary elements of a control system which are the first measurement of a change in conditions. The better the sensors, the better the system will work. If you slowly blink your eyes while balancing the broomstick, you will see how the primary feedback loop is hindered and system performance degrades.

18. Need more S videos

19. Hi Brian, the S would take the postbox with you and the 3 likes to go off road.
    So what is best?
    Think that if you get the newest computer on both they would manage it. You can see now that both are trying to correct the driving direction but it comes a little too late. If they have the same hardware but only different computers, it would be the reason.
    Thanks for the video and greets to Karen and your family here from Germany.

    👍👍👍🇺🇸🚐🇺🇸🌞😎

20. you've got to check this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dJKCeJqODY

21. I think the differences in the Model 3's steering, size, etc. stack up to make it a bit more of a handful than the Model S regardless of the hardware.

    I paid for Full Self Driving in Australia, but we don't even have Navigate on Autopilot here yet. Aussie legislators are likely to drag their feet on allowing it. Aussies like to project a tough façade, but they are actually afraid of their own shadows. 😤

22. love these types of videos! thanks for posting

23. Brian.. may I know what is latest software version for tesla model 3 ? I am not able to connect my M3 to home wifi.. I don't know who to contact about this.. any advise would help tremendously .. thank you

24. Brian, I'm pretty sure the 2.5 AP can read colours currently so it might be distracted from the repaved parts of the road.

25. I am wondering if your experience is more a factor of the steering control precision. The electro-mechanical component in the Model S may be more expensive (and precise). Just wait for Hardware 3.0!

26. What if you went backward as fast as possible. How fast could you go?

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